Mr. Derek Tierney:

I will re-emphasise what Mr. Gloster said. Surgical hubs are about delivering imminent and near-imminent impact on waiting lists. If we look at the impact of the surgical hub at Mount Carmel from when we opened it at the end of February to the beginning of September, we can see what it has done to the waiting lists across some specialties in St. James's Hospital. I will deal with waiting times. General surgery waiting times were down by 12%, plastic surgery waiting times were down by 17% and orthopaedic surgery waiting times were down by 4.6%, so we can see that it is already biting in.