Dr. Karl Richards:

Similarly, when you look at our summary for policymakers report from the MACC, the top two measures are reducing the age of finishing which in 2030 will reduce emissions by 0.7 million tonnes, which is quite substantial, and the other is switching our main fertiliser type to protected urea, which adds an additional half a million tonnes in 2030. The cumulative of both of those to 2030 is about 6.2 million tonnes, which is a substantial reduction, but the MACC does not stand on two measures. We need to deliver the 16 measures to deliver the entire 25% reduction, and that includes diversification as well.