Ms Caroline Walker-Strong:

Can I just add one thing that leads back into what Deputy Ó Murchú was saying? It is one of the things we called for but did not get to it during our opening remarks. It concerns the collection of data. There is a lot "we do not know" because we are not capturing the data properly, such as how many places we need and where the children are, where they are living and what the level of need is. I know that this week the Ombudsman for Children has been calling for data to be collected at maternity hospital level, which would be helpful but it does not capture everybody because things emerge as children grow. There is an important piece around having accurate data and being able to plan properly for the future so we get to a stage where two years in advance, we know what is coming and can see it coming.