Michael Murphy (Tipperary South, Fine Gael)

I will let the Senator come back in later. We will have a second round. I remind members that today we are focusing on urban services. We will have a separate module on 15 October about the rural service. Some of these witnesses will be before the committee again, along with other key stakeholders. I remind members of that. I will not prevent a member from asking a question relating to the rural element and it will be up to the witnesses to answer or not. I call on Deputy Boland.