Mr. Tony O'Brien:

Clearly, there are two significant backdrops. One is the homelessness crisis we are still experiencing and the other is the historical development of a wide range of charities to provide a wide range of social and care services. There is a general acceptance now that services procured by the State need to be fully funded by the State and the State has moved dramatically in that direction. Unfortunately, the experience of the Peter McVerry Trust is one of the reasons that has been understood to be a necessity. There is also a huge value in those entities having the capacity to raise funds to do additional things the taxpayer would perhaps not wish to fund.