Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 30 September 2025

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Artificial Intelligence

Artificial Intelligence and Older People: Discussion

2:00 am

Mr. Pat Mellon:

I thank the Deputy for those questions and I might even go back to an earlier one. We are a huge advocacy group and we have nearly 200,000 members. One of the things we find when we talk about AI, which we use, is that we are getting a lot of calls from people who are not using AI but are being used by AI. They are coming to us. I have seen this in things like healthcare abroad. The data has been scraped. They are identified and they are sold something without realising in the background, there are algorithms.

We talked about how there is no data for 75-year-olds when they are designing coding. Take AI for healthcare. If an app is designed for healthcare or artificial intelligence is designed for that, how do they make allowances for falls? If we are going to use healthcare in the home and somebody falls in the house but they do not have data from people aged 75 or their expectations, will they have fall data from somebody who is between 55 and 65 but not 75? It is those kind of things.

I use AI. I am sceptical of it but an awful lot of people do not realise AI is using them. That is where a certification, if that is what you want to call it, for the likes of these organisations comes in. If they want to operate, they are called to account and held to account by the committee members, our public representatives. That is what we ask. We ask for our public representatives to use their power, for which they were voted in, to do that and hold all these people to account.

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