Mr. Bernard Gloster:

I turn to Deputy Cahill's question. I will write to him in detail. To be fair, in the few seconds I have, there are differences between psychiatry, psychology and other things. I do not want to get into dancing on the head of a pin. His general concern is about children waiting, particularly in Cork and Kerry. It is at quite unacceptable levels. I have made that clear. Not all of that is resources. There are historical practices and other things. I will say that we do not even know the accuracy of some of the waiting lists we are talking about. However, on clinical psychology for children, we fund the doctoral programme in clinical psychology. The moment psychologists go into training as doctoral trainees they come onto our payroll as staff. We hire them the minute they leave. We have expanded the number by hundreds in recent years. To be frank, unless we start knitting them, we are not going to have enough with the type of demand that is there. We have to get to a more informed level of demand as to when it is appropriate to refer children to different levels of service, including clinical psychology. I am proud of the psychologists we have. There is a problem in Cork and Kerry. I will write to the Deputy about the whole children's set-up there and what we are doing about it, specifically the justified and deserved improvements, resulting from what was horrendous in south Kerry and north Kerry CAMHS.