Mr. Robert Watt:

We have provided our assessment and others can provide their view or assessment, but any objective assessment would show there has been unprecedented reform of the health service over the last number of years and particularly since Covid. Before then there might have been some challenges with the governance and implementation structures but since Covid, in large part thanks to the leadership provided by Bernard and his team and colleagues in the Department, I think we have in all aspects of the service provided unprecedented reforms. We have only touched on some of them this morning. The Chair will be aware of the detailed reports we publish. On the percentages, it is very difficult to give a -----