Ms Ellie Kinney:

Specifically on the climate side, the EU has had a real focus on the European Green Deal, although we are seeing a kind of shifting focus in respect of it at the moment. We are seeing proposals like the one we are talking about that are putting the European Green Deal at risk. On the finances - and someone please correct me if I am wrong - and these exclusions of fiscal rules that are happening in this instance, I do not think we have seen similar applied when it comes to the climate crisis. This is despite the fact that the climate crisis could very well be seen, and should be seen, as an emergency situation.