Ms Ellie Kinney:

It can be tricky when we start talking about hypothetical situations. It is useful to try to remain grounded in reality as much as we can. It is interesting that we talk so much about the various threats that Europe faces, the big overarching threat of Russia and the threats authoritarian governments across the world are posing risks to people's security, when there is the very real threat of the climate crisis, which is not hypothetical. It is a very real and current crisis. Money is being reallocated and action is being taken around hypotheticals, and that is worsening the state of global emissions due to the rearmament of Europe. When we think about threats, unfortunately, at the moment we must think about multiple threats. We must consider the broad situation we are in at the moment.