Mr. Gerard Brady:

I think there is still a lot of confusion about existing levels of service and how they are going to be done. The Irish Fiscal Advisory Council say it thinks the number is nearer to €5 billion. The Government has said somewhere between €3.5 billion and €4 billion in recent years. It is very hard to know what those existing levels of service look like without the detailed data from inside the Departments. As an outside body we go somewhere between the Government's output in the summer economic statement and what IFAC is saying. I know they have produced detailed examples of what those costs are in both.