Mr. Ciarán Nugent:

Maybe 30 years ago there was one earner, and now maybe there are three or four earners in the house. Obviously, the question is not, "Can you pay rent?" The question is, "Can you afford a second pair of shoes?" They can afford those minimal essentials, but housing is not on that list. That is another massive chunk of Irish society that we do not count as in deprivation or in poverty, which we should. Even with high incomes and high relative international incomes as well this is the case.