Jim O'Callaghan (Dublin Bay South, Fianna Fail)

The problem is - I will use this as an example, and Deputy Cahill has spoken about Ukrainians but this can apply to IPAS centres as well - if there is a property that, say, has 100 people in it in one part of Kerry and there is another property, say, in Limerick that has 100 people, and if there is space in each one for another 50 or something like that, we need to amalgamate them. I refer to the cost of these buildings. Nobody is going to rent a building on the basis of it depending on how many people you can put into it. They are going to say that there are 100 spaces here, you can rent it from the landlord for X amount per person, per night. What I cannot do is have 50% of one place occupied and 50% of another place occupied, and we are paying 100% on both. Efficiencies need to be put in.