Paul McAuliffe (Dublin North-West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

On the issue of ratios, people often say there are too many managers and not enough front-line staff. In my own private view, when looking at the programme, I saw issues of culture. They say culture is the easiest form of management. If people felt free to compile reports on actions that were not actually carried out or to depart from standard practice even where they know it was wrong to do so, as evidenced by staff saying "Close the door" or "This is not the way we should do this", it is very obvious that there was not sufficient supervision in place. I ask that whatever ratios are put in place include a ratio in respect of supervision and management.