Aengus Ó Snodaigh (Dublin South Central, Sinn Fein)

That is even better. We are going back to the other one so. It is a pity we are where we are, but it is good that the Minister of State has agreed that there will be a meeting with RAAP. That just points to part of what I said earlier. It is a pity that the committee in its wisdom, or lack of wisdom, decided to waive pre-legislative scrutiny way back, although it was not this committee but a former iteration of it.

A committee should never waive pre-legislative scrutiny when it comes to anything to do with copyright and EU legislation because they are usually based on highly complex theories. In this case, it is based on a highly complex court decision. That is why I was asking about full or further transposition. The previous legislation probably said, "full" but this says "further" because we did not fully transpose it.

My amendments are quite simple. I am pressing them to try to ensure they are given their full weight. They deal with the key section, section 208 of the Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000. This is about payments to performers. We are in a world now where we need to set this out in black and white because if we do not do that, we will have other challenges, some of which are already upon us, but there will be a lot more in the future. If we do not set out the rights of the performers and artists to equitable payment, then we could see a situation when we deal with the rights for remuneration in AI and all of that. We are all grappling with it in our head, including the use and misuse of music and performance and the right to our image. Only this week, the Netherlands passed a law to give each individual the right to their image. The Minister of State has that right. That is important for the future.

In terms of what disputes exist from the existing copyright and existing legislation in this field, we need to get it right so we can ensure the protections are there for producers and the performers in the future that are being abused by AI programmes. There is a role for AI, but if people are making money on the back of producers or performers, then they need to pay their dues for those. We need to ensure when they are paying it, they are paying it correctly. That is why I am adamant these amendments will strengthen the relationship and ensure that ambiguity does not continue. I am pressing these amendments.