Cathal Crowe (Clare, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

To add to Deputy O’Rourke’s proposal, I think the committee should ask the Department for the history of how it got to the point that there was an ETB clerical pay scale as opposed to those left outside. There is a big issue we are talking about but that is woeful that there are two ways.

We will move on. Senator Joe Conway is next and has four minutes.