Ms Ber Grogan:

It links to the governance piece. The Charities Regulator also comes under the Department. There is definitely room for shared services, such as in respect of payroll. The way service level agreements, contracts, legal responsibilities and so on are set up, there is so much governance and compliance that needs to be done. The demand for services can be overwhelming at times too, so funding for, say, a core governance and administration group, is not available. The Wheel and others provide training. The Carmichael Centre does really great training around governance, financial transparency and so on. We all want to be, and are working as hard as possible to be, fully compliant with everything, but you cannot go out and fundraise and say to the public that we need to complete this compliance.