Mr. Séamus Dooley:

It absolutely is. I am a Willis Towers Watson sceptic. It is a company that has operated across a number of media organisations in the UK and it is the platform but there is a level of frustration. Overall, it goes back to what Deputy Byrne said. If RTÉ was being reimagined for good reasons, I would say yes this is a healthy debate. The reality, however, is much of what is happening is a reaction to corporate governance failures and a failure of previous management to manage the organisation. As a consequence of that, we are now introducing all these changes without any great vision - being blunt about it - and the concept of seeking forgiveness rather than permission was brought to a whole new level in respect of what happened with the religious affairs programming and without any real debate on the lessons learned when children's programming was closed. It does not mean the programmes are not going to be made; they just will not be made by RTÉ. I often compare it to what happened with the Abbey Theatre when it decided to close the workshop. The workshop was an important part of the creative industry in Ireland.