Grace Boland (Dublin Fingal West, Fine Gael)

I found the idea of insourcing and the prolonged use of it baffling. It took me a while to get my head around the fact that we were paying people in the HSE not just overtime rates but going around the system and using HSE facilities to pay them a huge premium to do work at the weekends or through the NTPF. I would like to see the insourcing model phased out over the next couple of years. I note the Minister's comments wanting to see it phased out very quickly.

In terms of the money given to private and public hospitals, as the Comptroller and Auditor General highlighted, it is not clear which hospitals are at the top in terms of being funded through the NTPF for public or private treatments. Will the witnesses tell us what the top two private and public hospitals are?