Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 3 July 2025

Committee on Defence and National Security

General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed)

2:00 am

Mr. Stephen Kelly:

Russia should not have carried out the illegal invasion. It is true that it has a veto. The UK and the US carried out the illegal invasion of Iraq. They have vetos. France carried out the illegal invasion of Egypt. It has a veto. China carried out the illegal invasion of Vietnam. It has a veto. That is the problem with big countries. They choose to ignore international law where it suits them, particularly when they have nuclear weapons. There is not a choice of having an organisation like the UN where the big countries adhere all the time to international law. It is a choice between having an organisation like that or not having it at all. The situation with permanent members defying international law is disgraceful. It is outrageous that they can simply disregard international law when they have a responsibility to uphold the UN Charter as permanent members. Unfortunately, however, I think that without the UN it would be even worse.

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