Ms Fiona Brady:

No, I would not say that. It had followed the MOU. We have an MOU and have processes in place in relation to that. Hospitals apply for initiative. We automatically check if there is a problem with that waiting list. We agree a price per patient with the hospital, never with the consultant. We always make sure the patients have been on the waiting list for quite a long time, looking at the longest waiters. That was all agreed with Beaumont at the time. When they invoice us, we make sure that those patients have been suspended or removed and that each invoice matches a patient and that patient has never been paid for before. That was all checked from a finance perspective in the NTPF. We would never have been aware that that was not additional activity.