Ms Fiona Brady:

In early March of this year, I was reviewing the finances with the committee team and the director of finance in the NTPF to see what we had committed to for the HSE hospitals in relation to insourcing. I noticed that Beaumont Hospital had not applied as it normally would in January for some initiatives; it had spent about €8 million in the previous year. I was aware that there was a new CEO there and I made an appointment to meet her to chat through the waiting list to see what we would do. When I was there, she-----