David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein)

It is not just a risk. I am talking about a perverse incentive here, which is more problematic. I refer to the existence of these companies. We know current and former HSE employees are directors of these companies. We are a small country, and it is the same consultants, by and large, doing the work. In my view, given the existence of this insourcing, there is a perverse incentive in relation to managing waiting lists.