John Lahart (Dublin South West, Fianna Fail)

China poured more concrete in a 15-year period than the United States did in the entire 20th century. That is the other side of their fossil-fuel generated stuff.

Their South American narrative is interesting because the world is changing. I am on these committees, as is Deputy Ward. Some South American countries would say that they share and admire European values. They feel patronised when we talk to them about issues such as deforestation. In Ireland, we are on dodgy ground criticising South Americans for deforestation. In a world that is changing where the drawbridge is being pulled up on trade and all this kind of stuff, delusional or otherwise, one aspect, not for here, is there is a wealthy class globally that thinks it can escape all of this.