Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael)

I want to answer one thing in relation to trolleys because Kerry is particularly interesting. On Wednesday, 5 February, there were figures as high as 28 people on trolleys. Just by way of interest, in May, which was particularly interestedly managed, on 11 days out of 31 days in Kerry there were zero people on trolleys. There were three days with one person on a trolley. There were only four days in May where Kerry had in excess of eight people on trolleys, which we would regard this as a red situation, whereas in June so far there have been ten. June is not as good as May. May and June are not different profile months. During the period after the bank holiday weekend in June was not as well managed. There is an infrastructure need. For the people of Kerry this is about the right people turning up, not just in the emergency department, where too much of the focus is in the sense of blame or the people in the emergency department are not there. It is the people throughout the rest of the hospital who are also responsible for the emergency department doing things such as bringing in electives without making sure that diagnostics have happened to discharge other people or not being there to discharge over the weekend in a way that is sufficient. That is why Kerry is a particularly interestingly mixed picture. The Deputy and I should spend some time on it.