Mr. Andrew Brownlee:

On parity of esteem and how to bring more people in, it was a massive milestone a few years ago to get all of the apprenticeship and further education options on the CAO form alongside the university courses. It made people think about all of their options at the same time rather than having to wait to see if they got into university or college and then thinking about an apprenticeship or further education. That is really important. We have talked about the new tertiary degree programmes where people start in further education, FE, and then finish in higher education, HE. Let us consider apprenticeships, PLCs and traineeships. Demand for the types of school-leaver programme that we offer has grown by 14% over the last four or five years. We are moving the dial gradually and young people are starting to realise they can do other things that are more suited to what they are passionate about or have an interest in or are more relevant to where they want to be in ten years' time.