Jack Chambers (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)

The amount owed is €1.2 million but that is subject to validation and finalisation. The grades involved go from principal officer to Secretary General. The standard threshold relates not only to public sector pension totals but also has to be assessed if people have a private sector pension or other pension contributions that they made prior to their time in the public service. That has to be calculated in the context of the overall amount. The Deputy asked if this is still subject to validation and about former officeholders. The current number is 39. It could rise and has not been finalised. The number of current Ministers is 32. That is likely to be the final number. The present number of retired officeholders is 39 but it could increase.