Jack Chambers (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)

On the back of what the Deputy outlined around last year and the issues relating to CET - the Deputy referenced public documentation - Revenue then asked the NSSO to check other aspects of CET within its auspices, and that uncovered the issues that I have outlined publicly. That broader issue crystallised earlier this year around where they had not identified the scope or scale of it internally. I think it established a new pensions structure within the organisation. That combined with the Revenue audit, following the issue of last year, which the Deputy referenced, identified the issues, which are unacceptable. That is why we need a full external audit. The fact that different and distinct issues have emerged independently of each other is why we need to see, first of all, whether this is the extent of it on the issues themselves, but also to check and sample all of the other aspects of the systems and processes.