Ruairí Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is the exactly the answer that I wanted, but that is it; somebody is needed to catch the problem and then we make sure the intervention is there, that it is significant and long term. That could mean many cases then do not require Tusla's intervention, and, in some cases, when it is already far too late and the damage is done. Did the Vienna model go beyond better planning, connectivity and all the rest? I assume the Vienna model also included a huge number of people across socioeconomic groups who are living together, rather than what we have done at times when we have forced poverty into particular areas and then it has become endemic with all the other issues that go with it.