Ms Tanya Ward:

-----in terms of the way the programme has been put together. The issue is they have not put sufficient funding out and those services we have consulted have told us they cannot expand. Without any capital expenditure, they all have waiting lists. Some of them have 100 or 200 children. We will not really see the main impact of that programme doing what it needs to do, which is really transforming the lives of small and young children.