Mr. David Kelly:

To go back, the situation in the trust is probably quite unique. At the time we made the decision around emergency funding, two regulatory investigations were under way. We now have the findings of those investigations, which have unearthed fairly significant failings in governance and financial management and issues around the oversight of the board. We have engaged with a lot of the other organisations, obviously. We have satisfied ourselves that they have all done a check on their own governance arrangements and are satisfied these types of risks do not exist. As the Secretary General mentioned, AHBRA was in its early days. The lessons learned from this investigation will inform the future development of that organisation. It has done a really strong job in identifying some of the issues.

One of the other issues when we talk about our oversight is that we do not get involved in the day to day or into the books. One of the things that we have done to try to satisfy ourselves that governance failures are being addressed is to work with the regulators and to look at the robustness of the oversight. We have an oversight group and we ensure the trust is complying with conditions. To go beyond that and to look at some of the more forensic examination, AHBRA has put consultants in to work with the trust to ensure compliance is being met. We have a dedicated company in there working directly with the trust, looking at the procedures and processes and making sure that they comply with AHBRA and the charities issues identified in the regulatory report. The structures we have put in place can give us some comfort that there is robust analysis of the failings and that steps are being taken to address them.