Thomas Byrne (Meath East, Fianna Fail)

It is not. It would be really helpful for the committee to talk to colleagues of all political persuasions in other parliaments. I do not know if Sinn Féin has a sister party in Finland but, almost certainly if it does, that party will be looking to increase defence spending in Finland. Ursula von der Leyen is not telling the Finns to do it. Likewise, I do not know if Sinn Féin has a sister party in Lithuania but Fianna Fáil does and that party is telling its government to increase defence spending. There is not opposition in the Finnish or Lithuanian parliaments to increasing spending on defence. It is not coming from Ursula von der Leyen. In fact, what she is saying is coming from the member states themselves.