Mr. Finbarr Colfer:

If we are going there, the system is in a very bad place. Work needs to be done. We need to work on building trust, as the Deputy said. We in HIQA also need to look at getting under the bonnet a bit better. We need to look at how we gather information on culture. We do a lot of examining of leadership and governance of centres because we know good governance is good care and where there is poor governance, there are more difficulties. One of the areas we need to strengthen is how we measure that culture piece.