Dr. Karen Devine:

I was going to respond to Senator Craughwell. I appreciate his position that he is agnostic about the triple lock. I recall he said people outside the Oireachtas perhaps do not really care about it. I am an academic and I look at evidence. What we call a neutrality and triple lock roadshow is being conducted around the country, and the response has been quite significant in public opinion and support for the triple lock. That evidence is there. Donegal County Council passed a resolution in the wake of the roadshow saying it wants to retain the triple lock, as did Cavan County Council.