Duncan Smith (Dublin Fingal East, Labour)

May I make raise a point of order arising from what Senator Kyne has said? It is important for this and future discussions. The Senator said he is not aware of anyone who is in favour of Ireland joining NATO. The Minister of State, Deputy Richmond, has stated publicly his personal opinion that he would be in favour of joining NATO. That is important because he is a senior member of the Government and a junior Minister in the Department of foreign affairs. He is entitled to that view and he put it out straight, which is fine, but we need to acknowledge those views are within the Oireachtas and at senior levels of the Government.