Darren O'Rourke (Meath East, Sinn Fein)

My question is about CERN AI. Mariana Mazzucato talks about the innovative state and state investment in pharma, for example, so we end up with commercialised products. It is based on huge state investment initially. Perhaps we are in a different place in the tech sector. A lot of this is tech-led and the question is how we try to influence that. Where is the idea of CERN AI and is it a potential vehicle or just a fringe piece?