Mr. David Gunning:

We have two categories of legal cost. I will just look at the 2023 accounts. Legal expenses in 2023 were €224,000. We then separate and do not give the detail, if you like, or break out the detail on litigation and claims defence, which is where we are defending the State against these claims for €800 million. We do not break that out but that was €1.8 million. You will see that on page 23 of the 2023 accounts.

Legal expenses are ongoing day to day. On procurement advice and running procurement programmes, we have just finished, for example, a procurement process for the car park in the hospital. These are ongoing day-to-day business that require some degree of support.