Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 22 May 2025

Public Accounts Committee

National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion

2:00 am

Photo of James GeogheganJames Geoghegan (Dublin Bay South, Fine Gael)

Going back to the former CEO, I have no difficulty with Ms Nugent having training before coming to the Committee of Public Accounts, given it is Ms Nugent's first time appearing before it. Her answers on the former CEO, however, were clearly a trained response. Ms Nugent does not own this situation that she has found herself in, but it was a clear case of a certain line being given out. For the public watching in and understanding this story, something is missing or awry here. The Minister refused to give the consent on the board's recommendation for this person's appointment as CEO, an unusual step, which Ms Nugent has acknowledged, as someone who has worked in hospitals for a long time. That person, who did not get appointed, had to hire a lawyer to advise her on her position with regard to whatever processes were going on. Presumably, Children's Health Ireland had to pay a lawyer as part of the mediation process. The outworking of that mediation process was that this person received a new position that did not previously exist at precisely the same salary Ms Nugent is currently on, and CHI had to pay its own lawyers and the other person's lawyers. Is that correct?

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