Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

I want to deal with non-compliant procurement in the short time remaining. We are talking about a spend of €4.2 billion. The HSE has put the estimate for non-compliant spending at 12%. We have difference there because, apparently, the exercise only covered 38% of the overall spend. Could Mr. Mulvany put a monetary value on it for me because I am making an assumption - it may be incorrect - that the non-compliant spend might be at the lower end of the spend spectrum? When I say 12%, am I talking about 12% of the money - probably not - or 12% of the cases?