Gerry Horkan (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

We saw the impact of the HSE attack and how the smallest thing, such as somebody clicking on something or using an old computer with the passwords left on screens or on desks, could have an effect. All of a sudden, it was seismic, given the hassle it caused, the cost of recovery and the slowing down of productivity.

We are here using phones and laptops. All that stuff is everywhere. People get complacent. When everything is working fine, everything is working fine. They have ten passwords, and they are all the same until one gets hacked. I am not saying I do it, but I know people do it. They do not have different passwords for everything. One site gets hacked. I think SuperValu at one stage had the breaks scheme and credit card details were found. It is something we all need to be more conscious of. Data is out their in the cloud and so on, and it is accessible.

Mr. Honan is coming from the industry perspective. His members are in industry, academia and so on. I was looking at IBEC’s submission, particularly in the context of its concerns. Has Cyber Ireland got concerns about what is in the general scheme. Is there too much in it? Is there not enough in it? Have any of its members flagged concerns about what is in the general scheme?