Ms Toni O'Dwyer:

Our failure to achieve independent learning is one of the key pieces. Ms Agbona's experience would speak to that. We have students who are highly supported and overprotected are emerging without the skills. They have the ability to learn independently but we are not giving them the skills they require them they transition into tertiary education. They need to be independent learners and to manage and have agency around their own learning. We are not doing that. To comment on the point about joining the dots, summer provision is a perfect example of where we could provide training and skills around that. However, unless that is embedded into a student support plan and planned in advance, it will never work. In theory we have access to summer provision but it has absolutely no value unless we join the dots there and make that very effective initiative work for students