Ruairí Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I agree. There is still the question of addressing the criminal element and drug debt intimidation. Unfortunately, that is how people are being used. We have seen projects such as Greentown. I spoke to someone lately who told me about county lines and escape lines. It is about real interventions to take kids out of certain circumstances. Dealers are really flexible in how they operate and the use of cut-outs is phenomenal compared with what was the case in the past. They are willing to use kids, and while there is the whole cohort of kids around 12 or 13 years old, which is the problem age, there are also cases where six- or seven-year-olds are being used as runners. I appreciate that it is difficult to deal with, but it is about looking at this and reviewing it properly. On some level, this is all known, but it is about funding it in a real way. Otherwise, we can just keep having these conversations forever.