Ms Nina Brennan:

-----they are in the criminal justice system. That is the world we inhabit. On the Senator’s earlier point about the numbers, my understanding is that in earlier reviews, the views of participants were taken on board and accounted for. We are not running the review but I would imagine that would be a reasonable thing.

On the committee’s piece, I understand somebody who has been through programme and graduated was before the committee. Having watched it back, she is an extremely articulate woman. She would be very good to engage in review. Equally, members would want to hear from people for whom it was not as successful. It would be a matter for the review and those running it to get the views. It is not just the success stories. I think members would want to hear from other people too.

Perhaps Mr. Duffin will speak on the last point, and Ms Wright wishes to come in too. For us, in respect of diversion, we are already further down.