Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

It is, in fairness, but some do not report to BAM. Some are sideways, as I understand it.

I have rigorously gone through the whole process by which disputes happen because I am on the Committee of Public Accounts. I have gone through the issues of the employer representative, the board process, the meeting between the board and BAM, and then it comes down to the standing conciliator. The standing conciliator is a very eminent person. The witnesses can verify if this is accurate. If I am not accurate, they should please tell me. Remember that this independent person has found substantial claims. One is for €108 million, which in anybody's book is a lot of money. Another is for €18 million, as I understand it, which is a lot of money too. Why was there a requirement to bring in an eminent retired judge to look at that person's contract at some stage? Why was there a requirement to do that and what was the outcome of it?