Dr. Alan Wall:

I will just give some background. We had to construct a system because we did not have the powers. We relied on the chancellor, the president and the head of the audit committee to give us undertakings. We had three-monthly meetings with the provost at the time. With senior officials in there we got an undertaking. The HEA chair met with the president and the chair of UL. They gave us undertakings at that point. We set up a system that went from November and-----