Ms Phil Ní Sheaghdha:

We referred the matter to the Workplace Relations Commission, as I said earlier. We had a conciliation conference in May of this year where we asked specific questions. I am just referencing nursing figures. The HSE confirmed that 417 whole-time equivalents were increased in the HSE census due to the transfer of the four hospices from section 39 to section 38. They were not recruited, it was just a change of status of the employment. Likewise, they confirmed that the fourth-year intern student nurses are included in the nursing figures. Again, they are not recruited. We asked for other information, which we now have because they have supplied it to us. We are to reconvene at the WRC. However, in respect of the last five dates that have been offered to the HSE to reconvene, it has not been available.