Ms Claire Pyke:

I do not, to be perfectly honest. When the Low Pay Commission made a recommendation to move to these rates, there was an acknowledgement that if training rates were being used, employers should use a formal apprenticeship route. We did not consider or look at that. We have 80% of the sub-minimum employees in the accommodation and food or the retail sectors, where we would not see apprenticeships. Let us think about it and follow up. Apprenticeships are excluded from the national minimum wage, so they were not considered as part of this study.