Mr. Des Carville:

Do not forget that since 2014, I think, there has been a redundancy programme in NAMA. Every year, to the extent that a role is not required, there is a process through which people are made redundant. That is an important part of the equation. As I was trying to say a few moments ago, as we transition from what is NAMA to what the resolution unit itself requires, to the extent that there is a surplus to requirements, that is where the redundancy programme kicks in.