Mr. Des Crinion:

I want to push back on the idea that there are absolutely no unions involved in the waste sector. There are and I have dealt with the unions myself in some of the companies I have worked in. That was an incorrect statement. The vast majority of the private waste collection companies are family-owned businesses. They have people working for them for generations, as Deputy O'Rourke will know. We have people coming from overseas who worked for us for 20 or 30 years and have progressed through the system to manage yards. Therefore, I do not think the situation is as bad as was laid out this morning.