Ms Angela O'Neill:

May I respond on that also? In 2022 in Nicaragua, Trócaire was one of hundreds of civil society organisations, local and international, whose legal status was chopped up. Essentially, we were told to cease operations within 72 hours. That has happened to about 3,500 civil society organisations in the country. They have been closed down since 2020. The point is that, under the radar, we are still trying to provide support to the local partners. Some have moved to Costa Rica but are trying to provide assistance across the border. In the absence of a credible government or a government willing to recognise human rights, it is not a case of ignoring the affected country and moving to one that is much more conducive to recognising them. However, you do end up working below the radar for quite a number of years. At present, we are working in Honduras, Guatemala, Zimbabwe and Myanmar, where circumstances are less than conducive to recognising human rights, but you just need to stay the course, work with local actors on the ground and build capacity at local level not only to respond to local needs but also to continue to talk at international level about the human rights abuses. Often, the problem is that some of the crises become completely forgotten or ignored at international level. For us, it is important for us to stay in the country in some shape or form, even if the activity is quite low key and often without fanfare, and support the local actors, human rights defenders, etc., who are trying to create a society that is conducive at some level to what they desire.